sandusky. her voice was changed and her image obscured, the mother's, to protect the identity, obviously. let's listen to her. >> why do you think your son never told you? >> well, i think it was a lot of embarrassment. he was giving me hints to figure it out. and i did eventually figure it out. >> and when you finally did have the chance to have a heart-to-heart with your son, years after the relationship first began, tell us about that. what happened? >> we had a discussion where, you know, i had said, you know, if, you know, maybe we should have, you know, come to this conclusion earlier, you should have told me, and he was like, well, i, you know -- he said, i didn't know what to do. i just didn't know what to do. and you just can't tell jerry no. >> governor, you're a penn state fan, as well as a penn fan, you went to penn. but i think i know i a little bit about that feeling in happy valley up there, that almost religious sense of paterno and that football program. what's your sense of this as
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