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have told me, and he was like, well, i, you know -- he said, i didn't know what to do. i just didn't know what to do. and you just can't tell jerry no. >> governor, you're a penn state fan, as well as a penn fan, you went to penn. but i think i understand a little bit about that feeling up in happy valley up there, that almost religious sense of the importance of paterno and that football program. what's your sense of this as this thing's really come open now? >> well, i think the university has to do what patrick says. they have to really wipe the slate clean and start anew. and they've got to emphasize that penn state is more than just a football program. under graham spanier's leadership, it's become one of the great public universities in the country, one of the best academically, and it's more than just football. and that's a point that ought to be made. but they need to put all of this behind them. they need to understand the reality here is if in 2002, whether it's coach paterno, athletic director curley, mr. mcqueary, if someone had
>> and when you finally did have the chance to have a heart-to-heart with your son, years after the relationship first began, tell us about that. what happened? >> we had a discussion where, you know, i had said, you know, if, you know, maybe we should have, you know, come to this conclusion earlier, you should have told me, and he was like, well, i, you know -- he said, i didn't know what to do. i just didn't know what to do. and you just can't tell jerry no. >> governor, you're a penn state fan, as well as a penn fan, you went to penn. but i think i know a little bit about that feeling in happy valley up there, that almost religious sense of the important of paterno and that football program. what's your sense of this as this thing's really come open now? >> well, i think the university has to do what patrick says. they have to really wipe the slate clean and start anew. and they've got to emphasize that penn state is more than just a football program. under graham spanier's leadership, it's become one of the great public universities in the country, one of the best
thank you for being with us. >> clayton: even as a penn fan, get behind the penn state folks doing this. >> dave: outstanding and so much you hear, they're lazy and dz. >> molly: and they raised money. and before they put on the marathon dance. >> dave: north of 70 million dollars the program has raised. >> clayton: turns out not all teachers are angry with crackdown on organized labor. a wisconsin educator who refuses to join that union. >> molly: insure your car, insure your house and insure your dog. and next one city thinking about making canine coverage the law of the land. ♪ ring ring ring ring prsso. hi. we love your weight watchers endorsed soups but my husband looks the way he did 20 years ago. well that's great.
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