domestic vibe right now. i don't think they care. >> in western iowa, there's this church-base network of voters who are going to go for somebody, if michele bauchmann feels like she's the most serious person of the people playing for that vote, rick perry was really -- the theory was rick perry would lock that up. like somebody's going to get those votes, santorum -- it could be her. >> herman cain. >> herman cain could get those votes, but there's a path for her to win -- >> one weird thing with bauchmann, i think, she had that moment, but she never blew up. she just sort of faded as people like herman cain and newt gingrich -- it wasn't like they blew up. so one thing i think could make her potent in iowa is there's not -- she's not being disqualified in the minds of voters, she hasn't become the flavor of the week yet. if she becomes a flavor in the week in the right week -- >> she has to bloom on time. >> she has to bloom on time. ♪