and kind of goading -- >> chris matthews took over the proceedings? i can't imagine that. >> hard to believe. hard to believe given that chris is such a wall flower. but he with the reporter's notebook in hand, he proceeded to kind of product gingrich into his political consultant mode. most candidates don't take about their strategy, just talk about their mess and and voters. gingrich got into a process heavy conversation in which he more or less said i made a mistake. although i still want to run a positive campaign in iowa and still hope that voters repudiate the awful negativity of the romney campaign, i am going to going negative at mitt romney on romney care, on abortion, on planned parenthood. traditional conservative cultural conservative kind of issues. he's going to use new hampshire to try to set up south carolina where gingrich is still right now polling 10 or 15 points ahead of romney. gingrich and rick perry, they're going to go straight i think