candidate of trashing another person. he said he's swift voting, basically him. he's accusing him of being, in fact, he went after w. to get him. so he nailed w. and his entire republican campaign in '04 to trash romney. >> you know, i am always a little bit hesitant, you know, when we do political analysis to talk about, well, it's personal, so-and-so doesn't like -- i mean, those things exist, but usually there's a greater strategic aim. man, everything newt gingrich is doing right now seems -- >> going after romney. >> seems very personal. and you know, he went from, i think, believing at the beginning of december, he said this, but i think he actually believed it, that he was going to be the republican nominee. and he did. i was in iowa for a lot of december. and it was a carpet bombing that he experienced. and i think he thinks mitt romney is a person without honor. i also think that whenever you see someone saying i will run a relentlessly positive campaign, as gingrich did, it usually means they're broke and they don't have a choice in the manner. >> you're being tough, but i