terms of free media strategy. what the answer to that is i don't know. newt is a master at getting free media. >> does your party still have -- i used to call it the white boys club. the governors that used to get together. how about the boys club. is there still a pack of them to get together in some club fd say, well, we're a party. we've got to clean this up and get rid of this newt guy. is there any party group that can -- >> no, because i think you've seen attempts at that at various stages where you may have some of the governors rallying around in particular, mitch daniels. but this is what's so exciting for me. this is all grassroots that's driving this right now. and it's great. >> but think about what we know about newt already. the three marriages. the ethics committee violations. every bad thing has been thrown at him and he's still there. he's still standing. >> women are not as enthusiastic.