we're all throwing religion. i think that's overreached like a lot of things are today. >> chris, this is crazy talk. it's crazy talk. and i just want to touch on a couple things that tony said. first of all, this president has celebrated the national day of prayer. he's gone to court to defend it. that's one thing. second of all, he has expanded the office of faith-based initiatives, and he has also expanded his secular base by extending the policy who left taxpayer funding discriminate against people who don't practice that faith they can even not hire people like single moms or gay men who practice things against the church. obama went along with that. he issued an executive order. really deeply of fending his base. he also put stimulus money into churches through the office of faith-based initiatives. the catholic charity said he's