basically arguing to make the rule tougher. right? first i want to talk about how you did this. because you guys are real occupy folks and you do all the -- hand signals. twinkles and do the human mike. my first thought was how did the 325-page letter on regulatory enforce many get written under those conditions? >> the first thing is we didn't intend to write such a long letter. it evolved that way. the process went like this. you have plan to show to -- i got involved in occupy wall street on right after the big pepper spray incident. and i heard naomi give an open forum talk in wrigley square and asked her a question about glass/steegal. people came up and asked what is this. i do this teach-in. i know what it is. i can do a big teach-in about that. our lawyer came up to me after and he got in touch with me and basically said the time is right, this is perfect, let's write a comment letter. we all thought it would be about 60 pages long. we sort of slowly but surely got
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