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calista selling books about an elephant. what is the thing you've been most interested in? what have you learn most about the first wives? >> for me, it is about mrs. santorum's love of shooting and guns. >> these wives are wonderful ladies, as you've seen. like you just showed, there is a new gaffe every day. >> they can provide a personal side to the candidates that people don't see. and so i think they are only helpful right now. >> what you're saying is they're more intelligent and more sensible. >> that's what you're saying. crystal, rick santorum is really leaning on his wife, as you know. she's having to go on to tv and kind of defend him and say he's not really worried about contraception even though you and i know that he would leave to it states that ban contraception. and she is walking him back from some of his other gaffes. is she his greatest asset? >> i would say so. it like the, see, i don't hate

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