>> oh, the insanity defense. >> mark decoursey doesn't buy stickney's explanation. >> not only was he on paper the vice president of hih, he operated like the vice president of hih. he gave us a list of jobs. he had actually gone out and sold those jobs for hih. >> paul stickney admits that it looks bad but insists he didn't do anything improper. >> we took no action. the intention of that statement is what happened. looks bad, wasn't bad. there was no actions taken. >> so you never profited at all? >> zero. >> from -- >> nor any intention to profit. wasn't aware of it. was helping out a friend. dumb? yes. unintentional disclosure? no way. i disclose everything to everybody. in fact, i'm one of the best disclosures of the stuff i know of anybody in the business. ask around. >> stickney does admit he didn't