aren't laying people off but not hiring either. >> kind of riding it out? >> they don't need to hire because demand is not going up because people are not spending money. i mean it is possible, i suppose, we could see a little bump upward after the summer, i just don't think there is anything that will generate that the real positive scenario might be in 2013, if we actually do get these problems solved, then i think could you see a nice relief rally in the stock market, thought we escaped disaster, didn't have armageddon, get through that debt limit increase that is going to have to happen. if that all happens without too much collateral damage, i think then, yeah, companies might say, we got that behind us, we can move forward. >> quickly be a politician or political analyst for me then s this the kind of thing president obama needs keep going into the leeks? what he has to say keep riding it out, we are on an upward trend? >> i think obama could pull some leifer around increase hiring by 50,000, we all know woe do it. the funny thing here is i think