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down ballot are still playing a little bit of defense. highcamp is the only one to show how to effectively turn that around. >> you saw how effectively the republicans showed this jujitsu on medicare and the tax, the effect on seniors. >> there's no cuts being done by anyone in medicare. medicare is growing enormously under anyone's plan. it is around $550 billion a year today. it's going to go even under the to supposed ryan plan to $950 billion ten years from now. then they talk about slowing the growth after that. so we do have to get in nerdland to -- >> that's right. >> we have to get real about this. >> but the solvency of medicare is not a one-sided question. this is true at any given budget debate. there's certainly the question of cost control but there's also the question of resources. this is when we try to make it on the individual level, you can get a second job, bring in more

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