picture him without wearing combat boots. and i think, you know, it's not splitting hairs. dan is definitely hawkish on all of these things. again, so many people surrounding mitt romney have been former bush advisers, were pro-iraq war enthusiasts, have been pro-syria intention enthusiasts. these are people that want to go to war. sometimes it doesn't seem like it matters who, as long as it's like one of those brown countries over there somewhere. and i just find it hard to believe he's going to be able to make this pivot. >> martin, just to jump in, this dove tails with what you were saying with kristin welker in the earlier segment. there's not a lot of policy daylight here. what does that leave? it leaves rhetoric. it leaves these sort of parsimonious advances this romney made to his detriment in the last debate over libya. and i think when you look at what's happening on the ground in iran, you have a very aggressive u.s. policy. some people think too aggressive. but it has flattened the currency. it's engaged in cyber war or at least acts related to cyber war. and it has worked in concert