point. they still really want that -- to say that they want to tax the wealthy. but i do think that there is some wiggle room from them, the top economic adviser cited at least $1 trillion in revenue, which is slightly different than the $1.6 trillion that the president had been talking about. and so i think that we may see that threshold of 250 creep up a little bit. and i also think that the administration may be looking at other ways to tax the wealthy, like, capping deductions, tax deductions, or things like raising investment income taxes, which is slated to happen at the end of the year. >> what did gene sperling say on that when you talked with him, downplaying -- it seemed like he was downplaying the idea of limiting or capping the tax deductions. that that would help enough in reducing the deficit >> yes, several of the president's surrogates this week were talking about really downplaying that idea of capping deductions. that there wouldn't necessarily collect enough revenue, that they're seeking. so i think that they definitely see it as a piece of the puzzle to get to that revenue number. but perhaps not the only solution. and that's one of the things