right path and navigating application process, it is absolutely insane. we have essays, interviews, meetings. lots and lots of paperwork and keep in mind i'm doing this with a 4-year-old. for kindergarten. >> yep. >> i can't even imagine what it's like for her getting in to college so the idea of a tv show is to help you with the problems and me with my problems, too. >> that's the idea? >> why not. >> okay. so we booked kim vilasio, former applications director and author of "from preschool to grad school, strategies for success at any level of competitive admissions." so, kim, what are sort of the top keys for getting in to a school, really, at any level? >> well, the top advice is to find a school that's a great fit. i think that most parents and most students if they're aplaying to grad school focused on getting in to the school with the best rankings they think gives them the best chance of success but what's likely to