just the uncertainty of not knowing where this guy was this whole time. so what's happened today is right below bear mountain resort apparently there was a break-in and a couple was tied up and their car was stolen, and the chase went down highway 38 which is about 20 miles where they are right now, about 20 miles outside of big bear. so they've actually left the valley of big bear, and what caltrans is telling us right now due to this swatituation that a roads into the mountain are going to be closed. they're telling us right now that the skiers that are up here need to find a place to relax for a while at least and the commuters that would normally be coming up the mountain, they are not going to be able to come up for a while. so until further notice, we're -- everybody has got to stay put. >> and, chris, our viewers are watching one of those road blocks right now. we've actually seen armored