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>> how so? >> right now, say you're working in a restaurant that tips their poles. you could have somebody that hoo is not pulling their weight and getting money. >> right. >> it definitely changes that. it also changes the relationship -- >> so you're making an argument for ruthless individualistic capitalism against the socialist of pooling your tips is basically what i'm hearing? >> well -- >> it's a great idea in theory. but there was always some exception where like tom was saying there's that one person who is not pulling their weight. and we would have to take the brunt of -- financially, we would suffer because of that one person. >> as opposed you're saying everyone making a wage like they do in other -- would you like to see that happeny. >> actually i wouldn't mind it. it's happening now, restaurants like per se in new york are doing it. back in 19 -- late -- oh, 2000, i guess -- 2004, when i worked for quilted and barry, barry did

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