long senator portman's personal journey has been. it's not that his son came out to him and automatically he changed his mind and changed hi views. senator portman did what millions of other americans, certainly people around the world do, every day, every year, when a family member comes out to them. they take a step back. they reflect. especially if they're not comfortable with it at first. they take a step back. they reflect on it. they think about it. they talk to friends. they talk to clergy. depending on how long it takes them to make that personal journey, they express their personal support and confidence in their loved one. it could be a day, it could be a month, it could be two years. it could be never. >> yeah. so what do you feel about that? >> you know, i personally think, and i would never begrudge anyone's own personal journey on the question of marriage equality, but also on homosexuality. look, i'm an openly gay person,