manners of the british aristocracy. reagan would always let her walk in front as a proper lady. and that word, lady, she took very seriously, yet she was a hawk on the cold war and was suspicious of the european integration movement, particularly the euro, was more about the special alliance. i think -- with the u.s. i think there is, like you said, chris, churchill and fdr, and then there's thatcher and reagan. she embodies what the special relationship's all about. >> the great thing about churchill, and i'm a churchill buff, or nut even, was he knew he had to fight the nazis. there was no talking to these guys. they had to be beaten. i watched "winds of war" the other night again. the guy says the only thing i want to know about the germans is to lick them. they always knew it came down to talks. you had to negotiate. they weren't crazy, these communists. you could deal with them on self-interest and get somewhere. they both ended up getting somewhere with gorbachev. >> which was not easily forec t