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>> right. this is all internal. again, if i were a member of congress and i want to -- i'd sit there and say, you know what? i want to question these individuals. i want to question the individuals in the cincinnati office. i want to know what made them come up with this criteria. what -- >> you mean ask if they had their own prejudice? >> yeah. their own prejudices, the same questions, frankly, that they were asking of these groups. these were sort of -- you know, the request for names of donors. they were making requests of all issues that are important to the organization. these were some -- it was clear that they were looking to see, you know, specifics on conservative groups, potentially. why were they doing that? what was their motivation in doing that? here you get a little bit in the report that says, well, the motivation was they were trying to streamline the process and this seemed to be easy. by the way, that's another part of this -- this reporting and this story, this is -- the 501 c 3 and c 4 status, particularly c 4, it's the most ridiculous loophole in campaign finance. >> basically you can do

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