drones. i think we need to move faster to close gitmo which is a recruiting device for the next generation of terrorists, and we need a much tighter framework, one that has american buy in and we can explain to the world around our counterterror policy. >> what does it say, i'm wondering, willie geist, what does it say about our government that everything we have done on the internet could be scooped up by the federal government? all of the phone calls we have made the past six, seven years, this isn't about barack obama, this is about barack obama and george w. bush. what does it say that after this has been going on without us knowing about it for six, seven years, that now let's have a debate about it? >> they want to have a debate about it because now it's out in the public. there wouldn't have been a debate about it if we didn't