like bill o'reilly, who is a bigot, who accuses the folks they disagree with being part of a racial industry, frankly, the only industry based on race that i know about is this toxic talk radio. >> now, joy, and i want to be clear, all of us are going to continue fighting against violence in the community. i mean we -- >> of course. >> have done that for years and will continue to do that and deal with violence. and deal with all of the misbehavior in terms of our family structures and i will continue to fight hip-hoppers. i'm working with them, trying to get them to understand me. they understand. me understand them. we're going to continue to do that. but you can't do that and excuse injustices in the community, because then you don't have a credibility to even address the issues in the community. >> yeah, just like we would eat at sylvia's with knives and forks and not throw things we can also talk, walk and chew gum at the same time on issues of violence in the community and issues of gun violence outside of it.