regime? that's what they are entirely determined to do. we heard similar comments from the ones you're hearing from world leaders. from average people, refugees, that if no action is taken that it will encourage the bashar al assad regime to use more chemical weapons. if you look he history of the conflict, it began as a peaceful protest. then live ammunitions started to be used. then helicopters. then scud missiles. now according to numerous reports chemical weapons. if no action is taken now, we could see a lot more chemical attacks. so people on the ground were almost desperate asking for a not just u.s. military intervention or international umbrella intervention but one that's serious enough to not just register on a symbolic scale. >> all right, richard engel in turk turkey, just back from being across the border in syria. getting to the point of what the debate is here in washington.