make sure that white children like myself and black children who were my friends, who i played football with in first grade and baseball with in first grade, would go to school together. that was the normal. that was normal for me. let me -- al, let me go to you quickly here. it is incredible how that was normal for me and yet for my sister who was six years older and for others who were just a little bit older that wasn't the normal. because of king's speech in '63 and because of the work of everybody in the civil rights movement, because of that courage and because of this speech that inspired so many an integrated school in meridian, mississippi, that was the new normal and that has always been normal for me. >> you know, my mother cried when dr. king was killed.