symbol and the pageant's ludicrous standards that we are conditioned to take seriously. the protesters hung the longtime posts of the pageant burnt parts in effigy and filled a trash can with symbols of feminism oppression, copies of the lady's home journal, high heels, and bras. it was once of the first events to bring attention to the nascent's women, and it was also the myth of the bra-burning feminis feminists. they couldn't get a burning permit from the city, though. joining me now, debbie turner bell, miss america 1990. >> thank you! >> chloe angel -- still got it! chloe angel, hillary levy freeman, who is a harvard sociologist, and author of playing to win, raising children in a competitive culture, and of course, soledad o'brien, ceo of starfish media.