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joining suss carol tumulty, a reporter for "the washington post." >> hi, rachel. >> what is the appeal of a shutdown, going back to when they were campaigning for a shutdown in the first place? >> if you look at the house of representatives now, the republicans, fewer than one-fifth of those republicans were in the house in 1995 and in early 1996 when it shut down. let me tell you, rachel, you talk to those guys that were here before, they are not clapping their hands because they've seen this movie and they know how it ends. but i think these men and women ran in a different environment, and they also ran in sort of a mythology about what happened the last time around. and they somehow think it comes out differently. >> i wanted to ask you about that last point specifically