contractually and i appreciate the value of collegiality, listening. i need people around me to help me make better decisions. >> having said that, everything we hear from inside the walls of the vatican, and he told people to stop gossiping by the way. there were some people who were nervous. they have been there a long time. they're much more conservative an this pope seems to be. i asked dave gibson from the religious news service about how these conservatives are dealing. this is what he told me. >> 30 years now they have had it pretty good. there's a lot of dissention there about this pope, a lot of concern that he's undoing things that they have worked for. if he gets a real push back from the right, it could spell trouble for his papacy. >> how much of a risk is pope francis taking? and he's moving fast, by the way. >> he's moving very fast. i remember when he was elected, it was only a couple of hours before that you and i were talking looking over st. peter's square and he was 76 years old. so i think he's thinking this is