the people to sign a letter to get this going. the key about these folks is to ask what do they believe? where do they go to church? what are the philosophical positions that drive them into the area of logic. it's a religious problem that has bled over to politics. >> and the calculation is not political because it's a religious fanaticism. and that's why they're not looking at polls. they're on a different frequency. some of the statements made at the value voters summit were down right bizarre. understand it when you hear what frank is saying. they're saying things like u.s. was compared to nazi germany because of abortion. contraception coverage called a descendant of the french revolution. one woman called for an aggressive and offensive culture war. president obama was told to shut down and shut up and that drew a wild applause. >> i'm sure it did. >> this is the stuff happening