not a lot of enthusiasm for in the democratic party. she's popular a lot because of her personality, kind of like chris christie. people may disagree with some things she's for, but they like her personally. and if mcauliffe loses, it would be really bad for hillary, but if he squeaks through, they'll say, it's another victory for the clintons, let's move on. let's ask you about the base piece. because in the end, whatever these big factors this money are, it will come down on an off year election to go-tv, to getting that vote out. who's better at that these days? the democrats or the republican party? >> it will be by state, right? in virginia, there's a lot of new latino and asian american voters. and this will be a chance to take a stand. that segment of the base may be really mobilized in this particular moment. the thing that really struck me is you have two states in which -- christie is going to get elected in a state in which the majority of voters don't agree with his policies, right? this is about his question of style and sort of messaging and his ability to do that, it's
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