same basic successful pattern as in massachusetts. we just have to be patient and recognize it takes time. it took about a year for us to ramp up enrollment. really, it was about three years until enrollment was at its full, steady state level. we have to be patient and not measure the outcome in days and minutes, but rather, months and years. >> the we're talking about ramping up enrollment, again, ton the massachusetts model of one to three years, as you just described it, i think about one to three years in political time, as a very long time. when the massachusetts plan went into effect, if there had been a powerful, concerted effort by state legislatures and, say, mayors around the state, to rye to make the law fail, could they have interfered with it. could they have screwed up their chances for success if they were really determined to do so? >> i think it's possible. it's hard to know. as you said, we really didn't have that kind of opposition. we had to make these implementation decisions that you mentioned. but it's hard to say, because as