for people for decades from when they'll receive benefits. others might support raising the income cap on the payroll tax. liberals may like that more but it's also a budgetary reform. on medicare, i think the simpson/bowles plan is a great place to start, slowly raising the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 by the mid-2030s and expanding means tested medicare premiums. let's debate those options. and by the way i'm not the only one who thinks we need to debate this. >> we're going to have to reform entitlements to keep them solvent for future generations. >> you're okay with raising the medicare ability age? >> with proper carveouts for people with health challenges, absolutely. our goal should be to explore any option to fund and maintain entitlements while also being