anything like that. >> no, no. >> you were taking the statistics that say -- >> right, it was politically -- >> single ladies, mostly because they have children out of wedlock, then husband, father, whatever, goes and doesn't support them. >> right. >> okay, so they have to -- >> or even if they're single without kids out of wedlock, they're still dependent on government more than married women. and i wasn't making a judgment -- >> the census shows that. >> the stats bear that out. >> the stats. >> right. >> what do stats say about beyon beyonce? do they say anything -- >> i think she's doing right well. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor karen phinney. karen, i am left speechless after that. so it's up to you. go ahead. your reaction to tonight's fox guys talking about beyonce episode. >> well, i think you're right that there's a bit of an obsession, and i'm pretty sure they just wanted to be able to show that clip of her dancing for the ratings. i mean, why are we listening to