there and perhaps will be abandoned later? >> look cpac is a place where conservatives come together every year. you always get these speeches, you'll have donald trump speaking later today, he is not a serious presidential candidate, but they want to talk to the base and the base still doesn't like obamacare, and so this is giving red meat to a red meat crowd. not a big surprise there. if you're going to repeal obamacare, it is what are you going to replace it with. that's the thing republicans have to figure out. >> here you are a republican asking that question and we are not hearing again the answer which i think is crippling to the republican party when they bring up the affordable health care law. >> we will find out when the supreme court invalidates or possibly invalidates a portion of obamacare if the republicans have an alternative. if they want to be successful in the presidential election, they have to answer that. they can't repeal it and not do anything about it.