they've been let down because they look for an ideal, particularly for sae, the idea of a true gentleman. and what they really received was someone who said no you're not -- fraternalism does not transcend in terms of all of our differences, race, ethnicity, beliefs, unifying us around principles and ideas, you have really just reduced me and humiliated me and this is what you think. how can i now look at all of my other brothers and think i'm an equal in your eyes? that's got to be a devastating psychological view for a young african-american men as a member of that fraternity. >> lawrence ross and jonathan capehart, thank you both for your time tonight. we're going to stay on this. >> thanks. coming up, we're awaiting the press conference in ferguson missouri. we'll be back after this. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does?
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