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the mayor say to this community tonight that in your opinion, would be effective? >> you know i really think that this mayor has just advocated his responsibility as a mayor. the fact that this mayor is still going around saying that we have to go and delve into this doj report that we have to verify the findings from this doj report remember this was a mayor who said initially there were no racial issues that confronted the city of ferguson. he had to be drug kicking and screaming, into the small admission that there are reash initial racial issues in the city of ferguson. this mayor had an opportunity to cut a different deal with this police chief. this police chief, it looks like he'll be able to get his pension and health care and when you think about it, it's a police chief that has never commented on this doj report. a police chief that has said, i've never even finished going
>> can you talk about wanting to keep the police department? have you all assessed given what the justice department wants from you all, will the city be able to fulfill those commitments and keep its department? >> those are recommendations from the justice department. sure. so the city of ferguson again, is looking at all of those recommendations. we are engaging we have already mentioned that we're engaging consultants to tell us what that price tag might be and what are those -- tell us realistically what we need to be working on. and we'll keep that in mind as we make decisions going forward. >> and will you be able to keep the ferguson police department? >> we're already engaged several experts on these issues. rough estimates and things going forward, i would say that we believe that it's something that we can do. so we're committed to making
registering to vote. they need to be engaged in making certain that they have full access to and full participation in who is going to govern their community. and they should continue to call for the resignation of and the removal of the mayor of ferguson and just to note reverend all of the men in this -- in ferguson were allowed to resign. and that was a woman. so the notion that had all the guys got to retourire with their severance packages and deals is outrageous and shows that this is a city that cannot fairly govern itself. >> thank you both. now let's bring in the attorney for michael brown's family attorney benjamin crump. attorney crump, what's your reaction? and i heard you just now speaking with the mother of michael brown. what's the family's reaction to
blacks or the whites. we have to have equal justice. >> ben crump, thank you for your time tonight and we are awaiting a press conference from ferguson officials. we'll have that for you live. straight ahead, backfiring. the 47 republicans being called traitors for their letter to iran are in full-blown spin mode today. but one republican is actually trying to fund raise off of it. plus the widening investigation into the sae fraternity caught singing a racist song. tonight, other schools and other chapters are being looked at. and is the hillary clinton 2016 campaign off and running? wait until you see the tweets she sent today. please stay with us.
understood why there is oh such outrage here because of the systemic problem. in many ways, that's why the department of justice has studied this. they gave change. they did not give mr. wilson prosecuted as many had strived for but they have dramatically changed what is going on in ferguson at this point. >> they did. and i think it's important, reverend al because what we said there was larger implications about the tragic killing of michael brown. you see unarmed people of color being killed all over america. it's almost like an epidemic right now. and so we need to try to prevent this and there needs to be some deterrent and when you see doj say we're going to highlight and we're going to do honest fact-finding missions to see if there's a pattern and practice then that's a wakeup call for other police departments all across america. >> as the problem is nationwide
they've been let down because they look for an ideal, particularly for sae, the idea of a true gentleman. and what they really received was someone who said no you're not -- fraternalism does not transcend in terms of all of our differences, race, ethnicity, beliefs, unifying us around principles and ideas, you have really just reduced me and humiliated me and this is what you think. how can i now look at all of my other brothers and think i'm an equal in your eyes? that's got to be a devastating psychological view for a young african-american men as a member of that fraternity. >> lawrence ross and jonathan capehart, thank you both for your time tonight. we're going to stay on this. >> thanks. coming up, we're awaiting the press conference in ferguson missouri. we'll be back after this. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does?
chapters? breaking news tonight on the growing investigation. also we're awaiting that live press conference from ferguson announcing that the city's police chief is resigning. we'll bring it to you live, ahead.
of professionalism and fairness. and i'll open it up for questions. >> how much is that severance? >> i believe his annual salary is 96,000 somewhere in that range. it's roughly 100,000. >> what can you tell us about the acting police chief? does he have a function or action with the residents of ferguson? >> lieutenant colonel ikoff is relatively new. he started in august right before the events in august he was formerly with st. louis county. and our police officers have a very high degree of respect for the professionalism of
happen and what are your thoughts as we go through this? a lot of us were in this from day one, some of us under attacks for even raising the question of this needs to be looked into. >> well, rev, of course it needs to be looked into. justice has not been served. now we're at a point where things have to change in terms of training staffing creating diversity and transparency. >> let me go political science jason johnson, you andwere in selma over the weekend and we had this great weekend and awesome memory. here we come out of the weekend and we are dealing with the racial video coming out in oklahoma we're dealing with another killing of -- by police in wisconsin and madison and now we're seeing what is going on in
mutual decisions both by the chief and the city manager and i think that their comments and resignation, you know do say that they admit no wrongdoing. >> thank you very much. >> how to deal with the officers to improve relations with the community? >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington and you're watching "hardball." that was, of course, mayor james knowles of ferguson who announced this evening that chief jackson is resigning his post effective next week. this follows a devastating justice department report of systemic discrimination cared out by the police force in that city. that investigation began after the fatal shooting of michael brown last summer. in a statement to nbc news earlier today, outgoing chief jackson said, "i'm confident the city will pull through these trying times. the people are committed to ferguson." joined by try maine lee, this is