shopping parking lot during a high shopping season. but here we have this individual buy their way into the program and participate in a violent crimes task force. this is reckless. and obviously it ended in tragedy in this situation when it did not have to. >> so the national sheriff's association is pushing back on allegations of buy a badge programs, which is what we're outlining here and they call them political hyperbole at best and balance chasing at worst. there are the donations, which folks from the sheriff's department have pushed back and say lots of wealthy folks give money. tell me more about the genesis of this program as you guys at the aclu see it. >> it's something that we're digging into. we are preparing open records requests as i speak for the five largest counties in oklahoma and we're going to be correlating donation data with reserve police programs and coming up