explanation how that happened. >> let's listen to what the sheriff said about mr. bates' training in a radio interview. ing >> when you become a reserve deputy, there's three levels. there's the entry level. then there's an intermediate level and advanced level. bob went out and qualified with three different weapons was an instructor. >> okay so he was certified with his own firearm? >> he's certified with his own firearm and he's certified with the standard issue firearm. but the problem that we have that we're trying to verify is he qualified with a young lady that was a firearms instructor. she has left the sheriff's office and is now secret service agent. we're trying to get hold of her and talk to her about -- we can't find the records that she supposedly turned in. and so we're going to talk to her to find out if for sure he did qualify with these. >> ziva what do we know about