was so cool about dave was that he was the first guy to really open up that door of saying i'm a regular guy who is going to take the shine off of all of this hollywood bull hockey and real call people out and he did it in kind of an aw shucks way with a little bit of snark that let celebrities laugh at themselves a little bit, and as that developed you really saw so much self-deprecation from people, you know that oftentimes we would revere them and now letterman took the shine off of it, and i love that about him and it's always fun when somebody who you add mire and respect is the voice -- is your voice as the viewer. >> lizz, how about him telling jane pauley this sunday morning that we'll never see him again like he's not going to write op-ed pieces and won't show up as a cameo in tv shows and won't be doing guest hosting and stuff, that he's made enough money, i guess, and he's just going home. that's unique. >> johnny did that, too. >> yeah, he did. he went home. >> and i think that that is a