the investigation which is his duty as an nfl employee and he could be punished for four games for noncooperation. it suggests to me that goodell is not leaning towards reducing the suspension? >> i think that's a good point and probably true. roger goodell his biggest thing you're going to lose the salary -- >> the patriots are going to restructure the salary but they will lose him for four games. >> that's the ultimate no-no for a player. you can take away money but when take away games, a quarter of a short 16 game season that's the message to send. i don't think he said a lot today, the one thing he did say i'll listen to tom if he comes forward with new information but this is not going from four to two. >> is there ever a tipping point for the nfl? you think about domestic abuse, no problem. child abuse, no problem. concussions no problem.