huckabee. he's appealing to what he thinks is a base at home. >> evangelical christians. >> absolutely. also the money people too. >> in that trex too. >> absolutely. he ends up being more pro israeli than the israelis. to your point they are having a debate about this. >> what do you think, mike? >> huckabee -- this doesn't have anything to do with donald trump. he's not trying to outtrump trump. this is who he is and how he talks. i read his book last year. it's full of lines -- not quite like this. not holocaust lines but unbelievable screens about obama, hillary clinton democrats, jerry brown, everything under the sun. >> what moves this guy? he's like a rastafarian talking about ethiopia. israeli has strengths and weaknds. it is not perfection land.