they always are going to lie to get what they want. his lying did not get him to stay in the program. we're here to work with you, to give you every opportunity to succeed. if you fail, you fail because of you, not because of me. i dealt with mr. garrett for about four or five years. garrett played the same game. you just have to let garrett think he win every once in awhile. >> i know how to get in trouble but i know how to make people feel bad a little bit. like, come on, man, i'm just playing around with you. i really didn't mean it. and they're like, dammit, you're always doing stuff, but i'll let you get away with it. appreciate it. you know? so it always works. works out for the better. >> while he feels he was able to influence sergeant hooper's decision, norman smart's fate was recently decided by a jury when he was convicted on all charges for beating his wife to death. he awaits transfer to prison to begin the sentence of life without parole. smart continues to proclaim his
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