when you're at 20% and you have as much good will as joe biden and you're not yet a candidate, you haven't been pounded by the news media which they always are going to do to everybody who ever gets to be near the front-runner, you just can't do it. he's not in the fray. he's known by 100% of the electorate. they like him. he's at 20%. that's not going to cut it. it's just not -- this is not a good thing for him to do. he's going to do what he's going to do. always had this in his heart, but i just wouldn't do it if i were him. it's up to him. >> now, donald trump of course on the other side of this match, donald trump trying to explain his comments, john feehery about carly fiorina. it's clear about what he said. he was on with greta last night. >> just so that i'm on the record, i don't think you're a first time offender making a personal attack at a woman. that's the first thing. second thing is you didn't --