>> both the senator sanders speech and the cruz speech were con vocations which were mandatory attendance. but we were watching the long clips of bernie sanders' speech. particularly where he said i'm for women's rights, i'm for gay rights, and the cheers, are you surprised by the reaction? >> somewhat. we should remember we did have should wa some supporters there. but some of them had to be liberty university students, i think. they're not monolithic. that's why i think it's important that someone like senator sanders goes there. this also speaks to his appeal, that he's not afraid. he wasn't afraid to call himself a socialist in congress. he's not afraid to go into this very conservative university and say, i want to talk to you, but i remain pro choice, i remain pro marriage equality, but let's talk about where we can agree. the thing that's interesting about this, he does have a way