we expect there to be some contentious moments between him. again, though, what is going to happen when the debate is over? will the supporters still see him as the outsider that they like, the outsider that they identify with? taking a hit from opponents or the media, anybody, supporters seem to like him more. the poll numbers go up. they like it when he's under attack because they see him as more of the outsider anti-establishment candidate that he's billing himself to be. thomas? >> seems if, though, the outsiders have the advantage. typical politicals at the major disadvantage. tonight is do or die for jeb bush, isn't it? >> reporter: seems that way. remember, this is a marathon, not a race. he has a money of in the bank and could make a later surge in the polls. it all depends on how much the public wants to hear from outsiders, whether or not they're going to get tired of all this back and forth yelling and want some substance. if that's the case, yb is in a