help a refugee? and if you can say yes, congratulations. you passed the test. i think that kind of rhetoric is really difficult to have blow off from the pope. >> and clarence, quickly, bill richardson thought this pope could play a mediating role in a lot of world conflicts like he did with cuba. >> exactly. we know this pope has been very public about supporting the iran nuclear deal, for example. he sees us better off with it than without it. that's an issue where he can bring grassroots and change the tone in washington at least a little bit. >> we're always hopeful for a changing in washington. clarence, melinda and john, thank you all. "hardball" will be back after this. just might be the one.