routine in the campus shooting, the clij campus shooting. and here we are again at a college campus shooting. i think as you and i and andy sit here tonight, we know this is not the last time we will be discussing a mass murder on an american college campus. >> well, it's -- it's not just the college campus situations. it's not just the mass shootings. and it's not just the mental health issue. there are more women and children killed in dmesing violence situations in this country every single day. the mass shootings in this country, according to the last fbi report in 2013, shows these active shooter incidents on the increase. we've seen it over the past summer.