level of 9,800, then it would be if we wound down faster. that's one of the reasons. gordon, one for gordon just for old-time's sake since we were on an airplane last week. i do need to go see the defense minister of the republic of south korea if anybody wants to join us. >> on the drawdown plan, we're hearing it's not a calendar-bised plan on the 5,500 at the end of 2016. but it sounds like it is a counter-based plan. so i'm wondering, if the commander at the time at the end of 2016 says, we don't want to go down to 5,500, how big of a lift would it be to reassess that and let the 9,800 stay? >> i can't say that. it's a long time from now, a