and, you know, what if the abolitionist had said, you know, i don't believe in slavery. i think it's wrong. but you guys do whatever you want to do. where would we be? >> definitively, do you want to see roe v. wade overturned? >> ultimately i would love to see it overturned. >> for more on the carson campaign, we're joined by steve car kna kornacki. what does it mean politically? >> we talk about donald trump's sort of sagging in iowa right now. but obviously, the bigger part of the story is ben carson's rise an you say it's three -- the four new polls and another one this afternoon, a college poll with a double digit lead to ben carson. the newest monmouth of 32-18. looking closer, it is amazing. the favorable/unfavorable scores. ben carson get this among iowa