the new york times. and a poll is coming in, and the new poll e shows that donald trump is even with ben carson and 26% point, and 26% points for both for those republican or republican-leaning registered voters. combined, that is more than half of the vote preference. and betsy, the dominance continues for ben carson as well as donald trump, and the two saying, hey, the numbers show it. we are not going to be participating in the last cattle call. >> yes, and what is interesting to me about the new numbers is that the top three candidates are no longer 100% outsiders. after the last debate, carly fiorina rocketed, and now she is falling down the less than 4% of the vote. so even though they like the outsiders, they like these two outsiders with a little love for
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