sanctuary cities or treat iing e terrorist war by a terrorist state as if it were just a bank robbery, and those sorts of things have results, and they make us weaker, and they make it harder for us to deal with the international situation. >> former cia director james woolsey chairman of the foundation for defense of democracy, and thank you, sir, for your insights, i appreciate it. and now tragic news that an american is dead in the paris attack. more information on her after this short break right here on msnbc.